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The Pain and Embarrassment of Large Labia

Imagine walking around with a piece of sandpaper in your underwear day in and day out...

Sounds pleasant, doesn't it?

Well, that's how a woman recently described the constant chaffing she experienced due to her large labia.  And hated the fact that she couldn't wear certain clothing or enjoy normal activities like exercising, running or having sex.

I talk to women like this all the time and even know of women that got so desperate, they actually tried "cutting off" their own labia

For many women, enlarged labia can cause serious physical and psychological pain.

The fact is we are all different. Height, weight, genetics, you name it.  No two women are alike.  And because of that our labia also come in all shapes, sizes and colors.

 


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Many years ago American gynecologist R.L. Dickinson, did a study called "Hypertrophies of the Labia Minora and Their Significance."

After measuring the labia of more than 2,000 women, he found that 88% of them had labia between 0 to 3/4 of an inch long.

10% of women were between 3/4 inch and 1 1/4 inch.  And another 2% were larger than that.

Shocking, right?  :-)

Conclusion: some women have "average" sized labia, some have larger labia and some have excessively large intrusive labia.

No matter what size your labia happen to be, they are "normal".

From my experience, many women love their large labia (as do their enlightened male partners).

For others it causes pain, discomfort, hygiene issues and even embarrassment.

In the time I have been a labiaplasty consultant, I have spoken with hundreds and hundreds of women about their labia.

What I have learned is, elongated labia can be a condition present for females of all ages, sizes and races.  And frequently begins to impact women during puberty or pregnancy.

Regardless of the cause, large labia has been around for centuries.  If you love your large labia, hallelujah!

Every woman is unique.  In the end it is your body and you should not be concerned about pleasing anyone, but yourself. 

Labiaplasty is a surgical procedure designed to address the symptoms created by long labia minora or in some instances excessively large or loose labia majora (outer hair-covered lips).  Appearance is an added benefit for most.

For far too long, women have been told they just have to "live with it" or that they are "normal".  The truth is we are all different.

Only you can decide what is right for you.  This information is to educate you of your choices and empower you to choose what is best for you and your body.

There are risks.  Do do your research.

Ask questions and get answers!

 

Want to learn more about labiaplasty surgery?

Comments (66)Add Comment
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written by Mike, July 25, 2010
I am a man, and I like big long labias! They are very sexy! Best for me! Labioplasty - horror of 21 century... Do nothing with your lips!
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written by Vanessa Scott, July 25, 2010
Hi Mike, thanks for your response. It is always nice to hear from readers and your insight is appreciated. My patients tend to share that they do not have these procedures for other people. They even go as far as to say their partners are either supportive or not concerned (i.e. "like them the way they are"), therefore the majority of these women do it for themselves. However, thank you again for taking the time to remind everyone that the labia is beautiful large or small! smilies/wink.gif
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written by embaressed, October 01, 2011
I hate my labia they chaf they cause me many yeast infections and sometimes one side can fall out of my underwear and let's not talk about if my underwear where a little tight then here comes another yeast infection simply because my labias are closed in tightly and my vagina can't breath....if I separate my labia then put panties on then they get irritated and here's another infection I'm in tears because damned if I do and damned if I don't!!!
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written by Vanessa Scott, October 04, 2011
Hi there,

Thank you for your comment. Trust me you are not alone in this.
There are many women that experience this.

By sharing your experience you remind us all how something like this greatly impacts the quality of our lives. We all deserve to live happy, healthy lives.

Keep doing your research and feel free to ask any questions that might be helpful.
I am here for you! smilies/smiley.gif
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written by Susan (aka Juliette), October 06, 2011
I always hated my labia - they are large and prominent and hang down between my legs. But I have had several sexual partners (I am a part time escort), and, despite the fact that my clients have seen multiple partners in their lives, no-one has ever said my vagina was anything but beautiful. I am now in my 40s and for the first time in my life I think I am actually proud of how my bits look! I know there are guys out there who would specifically search me out for my large labia, and I know that even if my shape is not particularly what a guy looks for in a girl - none of them have ever made any derogatory comments. Mine hang down a good inch from my outer lips, and yet I have never suffered any chafing or infections or irritations - I am not sure you could accuse large labia of causing this. (and I am an endurance rider and can be riding a horse for up to 12 hours with no problems). So - ladies - please learn to love your vaginas - Smaller labia will not make your particular vagina more beautiful I don't think. Vaginas are vaginas - smaller labia do not make them attractive. Trust me - I have had probably 100 men have a close up view of my vagina and not one of them has complained!
take care xxx
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written by Vanessa Scott, October 06, 2011
Hi Susan,

Thank you for your comment. It is kind of you to share your experience and opinion.

Almost 100% of the women that have a labiaplasty are not doing it for anyone, but themselves. It is so important that we feel happy with our bodies and our choices. Regardless of what anybody thinks.

In the end, if our bodies are not working for us, cause pain or discomfort, options are available to help create a healthier existence. Not to please other people.

Only we know what we experience firsthand (good, bad or indifferent). And therefore like you, only we can decide what is right for us...

Thanks for sharing!
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written by iamsad, October 11, 2011
why does life hav 2 b so hard? i have a massive labia and i'm afraid when i hav sex with my boyfriend, he'll dump me and then ill be doomed cos like i'm in love with him.smilies/cry.gif
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written by Vanessa Scott, October 11, 2011
Hi IamSad,

Thanks for sharing. You are not alone.

Most women do not have these procedures for anybody but themselves.

Fact is, most men won't care at all. And those that do aren't the ones you need to be having sex with.

In my experience, if you are happy with yourself, then your boyfriend will be also...if not, time for a new boyfriend. smilies/wink.gif

Good Luck!

Vanessa
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written by Cynthia, October 16, 2011
Hi,

I have an enlarged labia and I hated myself for it I thought I was alone until one day I researched it and came to find it was actually quite normal. I was however very shy when it came to intercourse and stayed away until I met a guy who swept me off my feet and he's never said anything negative about my labia, I'm still insecure but I've learned to embrace it, everyones different and that's what makes us beautiful. I'm also lucky in that it doesn't cause me any physical discomfort but I'm sure if it ever does I'll probably get something done.

Quick question, if you happen to know about this.. I was thinking of getting laser hair removal do you think that having an enlarged labia will be any problem?

Thank you!
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written by Melissa, October 17, 2011
My daughter is 13 and she came to me about a year ago complaining of pain "down there" and wanted me to look at it. I was taken aback because her labia minora hung down about 3 inches past everything else. We researched this together and found out it is quite common and the pain was probably from the sensitive skin rubbing against her clothes. She has complained off and on about being uncomfortable but over the last week she is crying everyday about pain. The dr. gave her medicine for a bladder infection but it hasn't helped the pain. She said the pain is inside the tissue that hangs down. She has no lumps, bumps or anything that looks different. She has stopped playing sports and comes home crying everyday about the pain. Can a 13 -14 year old have this procedure? This seems extreme to me but I don't know what else to do for her pain! She isn't sexually active , she started her menstrual cycle when she was 12. She keeps saying she just wants them cut off!
Any advice?
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written by Vanessa Scott, October 17, 2011
Hi Cynthia,

Thank you for sharing your personal experience. Very nice to hear that the size of your labia does not cause you any pain or discomfort. As you know, unfortunately that is not the case with all women.

In regards to the laser hair removal, they typically do not laser the labia minora (because of pigment). But you should not have any trouble because of the size.

Hope that helps! And congrats on your Prince Charming. smilies/grin.gif

Best wishes.
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written by Vanessa Scott, October 17, 2011
Hello Melissa,

Thank you for reaching out. This is actually more common for young girls her age because of puberty. As our bodies change chemically and estrogen levels increase, so does the size of the labia.

The youngest female I knew that received this procedure was 13. Her parents were involved and this was not done for cosmetic reasons either. She was suffering from terrible pain.

My advice would be to see a specialist. If you need help, I have a doctor or two that would probably be the most appropriate for this. And though the likelihood is slim, if there is enough evidence to support that this is "medically necessary", you may be able to submit to insurance because of her age.

Please let me know if you have other questions.
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written by hokllhp, November 13, 2011
my girlfriend is having large labia,why the size of labia is so large is it from having so much sex with diffrent guys?
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written by Vanessa, November 13, 2011
Hi Hokllhp,

Thanks for your comment. Your girlfriend having larger labia is not due to her having sex with different guys. The size of labia is affected by hormonal changes in the body, weight gain, genetics, pregnancy, etc.

If you are concerned with her being faithful, you should discuss that with her. From my experience, multiple sexual partners do not determine the size of a female's labia.

Hope this helps!
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written by Ella, December 01, 2011
I have large labia and didn't realize there was anything "wrong" with them until I was 19. Imagine my embarrassment when I finally learned this!
A decade later, I'm married with children and have a very incredible sex life. My husband claims to enjoy eating me, and loves having sex with me.
And yet the embarrassment gets worse as I get older. I'm constantly hit with a slap in the face at how unaesthetically pleasing I am. I become more aware daily of my lack of femininity. The term "beef curtains" makes me feel sick and ashamed of myself.
Anyway, the real purpose for my writing this is that I'm researching labia today and came across your article. I was hoping to actually get some benefit from it, but instead you really encourage surgery! I'm sad to see that.
Just remember, as you sit here telling women that labiaplasty is the way to go, that you're egging us all on to feel inferior.
It's not a woman's choice for herself to get this done. If my labia were seen as beautiful, I would not feel the pressure to cut them off for my husband's sake. No, he doesn't complain, but he's a smart man. Women do not do this for themselves unless they have physical pain. It's the emotional pain of being so physically grotesque and the enthusiastic reply of, "well, you can always have a labiaplasty! Here, let me hook you up with some doctors..." that is the final push.

Thank you, Mike, for your wonderful reply. I agree that labiaplasty is the horror of the 21st century.
Vanessa, you really should be ashamed for the surgical agenda you're pushing here.
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written by Vanessa Scott, December 01, 2011
Hi Ella,

Appreciate you taking the time to comment.  Although I'm not sure you read the post clearly.  

If you had, you would have noticed that I do not "encourage surgery" nor tell women that "labiaplasty is the way to go".  And I certainly cannot make you feel inferior.  Only you can choose to feel that way.

It is unfortunate and sad that you are as conflicted about your body as you are and resent others for a self-imposed belief.

You claim that it is "not a woman's choice for herself to get this done."  I would strongly disagree. Whose choice is it?

Similar to breast reduction, nobody is forcing anybody to have these surgeries. This is not circumcision. These procedures exist as options to improve their quality of life, not because there is a right or wrong way to be or look.

I have spoken to many men (like your husband) that see all labia as beautiful.  If you don't, again, that is your choice. But it is unfair to criticize or describe women as "grotesque" because you do not like the way labia look.

In the end, whether or not you agree with labiaplasty is irrelevant.  The fact is there are thousands of women researching this surgery and looking for help every single day.  My site provides them information they can't get anywhere else so they can make decisions that are best for them (whether for or against surgery).

This is a safe place for them to get answers and not be JUDGED for having those questions.

And as long as women continue to benefit from this information, I will continue to provide it.

Unlike you, I believe a woman is strong enough and smart enough to make her own decisions and detest the suggestion that we women are weak and powerless.

The choice to make sound decisions about my body, is just that, my choice.  I would hardly call that "pushing" a surgical agenda.

Thank you again for sharing your opinion. I wish you the best and hope you find what makes you happy.
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written by Jay, December 08, 2011
My wife has kind of long lips.I only wish they were longer.I was divorced at 21 and been with over 100 women befor married again at 35.I am very turned on by long lips.I think they look great when having sex and when not.Don't get them cut off women out there.You probably look at a guys bulge.I love to see an outline of long lips in panties or cloths.
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written by Alyssa, December 08, 2011
Hi, I'm kind of young but I'm always very interested in what people think about large labia. I have only had sex with one person but I've started thinking about doing stuff with my current boyfriend(not sex just yet). And I'm very open with him about everything including my body. I am very self conscience about my vagina because of my large labia. But I told my boyfriend that I was embarrassed for him to see my vagina because I think it looks weird. He asked me why it looked weird and I told him that I have large labia and he was so excited! He said he loves large labia because they are more sensitive and he thinks it is more attractive. Sometimes you just have to be straight forward with someone and you might be surprised by what you hear. smilies/smiley.gif
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written by Vanessa Scott, December 08, 2011
Hi Jay,

Thank you for your comment and for sharing your opinion. As the post points out, there are many men and women that love large labia.

The information on this site is for educational purposes and for women, not for men or about what turns you on.

And though as a man you believe you are helping women by expressing your opinion, a woman's body does not serve only to satisfy a man's sexual needs.

It is her body and these issues are not for you to dictate what is best for a woman, based on YOUR needs.

No different than if your wife were on a site suggesting she wished your scrotum were larger and longer, because that is what SHE liked.

If your scrotum caused you pain, discomfort or hygiene issues because of its size, is it not YOUR right to choose to do something about it?

Or should you disregard what you feel because it turned on your wife??

Just curious... smilies/wink.gif
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written by Vanessa Scott, December 08, 2011
Hi Alyssa,

Thank you for your comment.

Regardless of what anyone thinks about your body, you should never consider this or any procedure for ANYBODY ELSE.

Labiaplasty or any other surgery considered to be elective are options to improve the quality of YOUR life, not to satisfy a boyfriend or gain someone else's acceptance.

If he or anyone does not like the body you love, then they should definitely be seeing the door instead!
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written by Nora, December 12, 2011
Hi, it`s interesting to read that many different opinions about a labia. I have a large labia since I was 16. From the year it grew large, I became so self-conscious that I haven`t had sex for 7 more years (age 23)!I was to ashamed to "show" it to any guy or ask a doctor about it. I never knew whether I`m normal or I exaggerate this issue. My large labia literally made a huge effect on my life, because it made me hate my body, what made my self-esteem destroyed. In my case it was an emotional story and not something about a physical discomfort. I do believe labiaplasty gives hope to a lot of women. I haven`t had it yet, but I might consider the option.
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written by Alison , December 18, 2011
hi, im 17years old, noticed that my labia was larger than wat is seemed to be precieved as "normal" from the age of 14. at the moment its really depressing me, i feel that no boy is ever going to watn to touch me if they see what it looks like, i only feel confiedent wen im drunk and i feel the only way to go about it is surgery, even though some of the comments help reassure me, it doesnt stop the mentality of feeling "different" please help!
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written by Vanessa Scott, December 18, 2011
Hi Allison,

Thank you for your comment and being willing to share your experience. As you know, you are not alone.

The truth is you are very young and your body will continue to change. As your body matures, so will your mind. What you see as different now, may actually be what you see makes you unique.

With that said, though there are women that choose to have labioplasty for the appearance, it should not done for someone else. Labioplasty is an option to help women feeling discomfort, physical pain, hygiene issues, etc. It should never be done for anyone else, but you.

As you have read here, there are many men and women that love labia (all sizes, and for some the larger the better). You need not feel there is "normal" size for labia, or that you are "different". We are all different, males and females. If labia surgery is something you choose, do it because it is about improving your life, not because you are concerned with pleasing somebody else.

If you consider labia reduction for somebody else or for fear of being rejected, it is best that you do not have any surgery period. Nobody will ever care more about this than you. Trust me on that.

Real men do not care about the size or look of your labia. And any guy lucky enough to be with you, will tell you the same. If you are happy with it, so will everyone else. :-)

Hope this helps. Please do not hesitate to contact me again with other questions.

Best wishes,

Vanessa Scott
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written by Penny, December 22, 2011
I'm 15 and I recently realized that I have larger labia. I was really scared and thought I wasn't normal until I started researching, I'm still scared of getting judgement and guys being disgusted. smilies/sad.gif
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written by Vanessa Scott, December 23, 2011
Hi Penny,

Glad to hear that you are doing your research and are understanding there is no such thing as "normal". We are all normal and size is relative. What may be large to you, may not be large to anyone else.

At this point you are very young and your body will continue to change and develop. Do not concern yourself with "judgement". Most important is for you to see that there is nothing "wrong" with you or your body. Any boy that suggests otherwise, is just that, a boy. And is not worthy of you or your body.

We are all unique and beautiful in our own way! smilies/wink.gif

Best wishes.
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written by Madison, January 02, 2012
One of my labia is larger than the other, and it has been for a long time. It does get annoying, but I don't often feel pain and the docs said that nothing is wrong and surgery is quick to do and only takes a month to recover. (I will be having the surgery next year) Just enjoy your life, as everyone is different in their own way. We're just lucky that it's down there and not where everyone can see!
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written by Unsure, January 05, 2012
Im 13, and have a large labia. It's comforting hearing all your story's but I still feel uncomfortable and gross. Having that wrinkly skin down there is repulsive. I haven't told anyone, not even my mom yet because I'm so embarrassed. It makes me self concious and have a lower self esteem. It also is a discomfort sometimes.mine arent 3 inches. Of flappy skin, but only about 1. All my friends don't seem to have anything! I feel different, like a misfit.

A little more about me: I am not overweight, but almost the opposite. I am a few pounds underweight. I am not a loner at school, but pretty popular.
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written by Vanessa Scott, January 05, 2012
Hi Unsure,

Though you may feel different and embarrassed, keep in mind a couple of things.

One we are all unique. What you may think is "repulsive", others may find absolutely desirable. You are very young and your body is changing, growing and still developing (so will your mind and perspective).

To some other woman with labia that protrudes 3 inches, that experience physical pain and discomfort, your labia is desirable.

Allow your body to continue to change and trust that you are not the only one that has been self-conscious about your body. However, remember that we are all different and that is what makes you special.

Enjoy yourself and know that no one that matters will ever care more about your labia than you. :-)

Best wishes...

Vanessa
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written by Toni Hughes, January 08, 2012
Hi there.

I am 14 years old and so insecure about the way my labia looks.
One side is larger than the other. I mean,not only that the fact that when i walk i have loads of discomfort. I can almost feel it rubbing again my leg! I also get lot of thrush through it to. I have informed my mum already and she's making me a doctor's appointment tomorrow. I find it nerve racking that i have to let a doctor examen me. As my mother said it's for the best as i could have something wrong. I also sometimes have bad nightmares about how i would try chop it off. It feels like when i walk to places that are like pretty far like for instants walking to school which is literally across the road i start getting a burning pain or a rubbing pain. I have to make millions of excuses every day to my friends like my shoe lace,belly pains,sore foot. I'm also late to lessons as i have to stop for a a good 5 minuets to calm it down. Just ever so worried about the doctors.

Toni smilies/cry.gif
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written by Vanessa Scott, January 09, 2012
Hi Toni,

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Though seeing the doctor may not be the easiest thing for you to do, as your mom said, this is to get help. If what you describe regarding the labia pain is related to the size, by talking to your mother and seeing a doctor you will find out what can be done.

Normally, I suggest girls your age to wait for their bodies to finish developing before considering surgery, especially when one is concerned with the look or considering it because of "cosmetic" reasons. However, the young ladies I have worked with that did have labioplasty, had it for functional reasons (not because of the appearance). They had it because they were in constant pain and were not able to do the basic things you just described (or ride bikes, play in sports, etc.).

In the end this is about finding answers and options to what you are experiencing. Most important is to see what is going on with you and why you are experiencing such pain and discomfort.

If it turns out that the pain is being caused by the size of your labia, make sure your doctor knows what they are doing.

But do not stress yourself out. If this ends up being the right option for you now, remember you are not alone. It is great that you are able to talk with your mother and that she is helping you find the next step that is right for you.

Best wishes and blessings!

Vanessa smilies/smiley.gif
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written by Dorothy, January 09, 2012
Hi, I would like some opinion on my predicament. I know this is a really awkward question to ask, but one of my (I think) labium minor is rather large, with a piece of skin protrudes. Honestly, I really don't give a crap about cosmetic reasons. I'm 14, and I know this is early, but I would like to have a labiaplasty operation. This is not for cosmetic reasons, but instead for the chaffing and pain I get when I walk. It really doesn't hurt too much, but I ride horses and also do other sports, and even something small as riding a back or sitting down hurts. It protrudes for maybe 2 inches at the most, but only on that one side, and it's very very uncomfortable. I know it's early, but should I get the operation when I'm older, like 19, or so? It can be very painful sometimes, and it's not cosmetically, but i just want it gone!
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written by mikespink, January 10, 2012
I used to fall uncomfortable about having a large labia. But I no longer feel this way. Few times have I experienced physical discomfort. No odors, yeast infections etc. I just disliked the way it looked. But over time (I'm 42), I have learned to embrace its uniqueness, its unusual beauty and the extra sensations from engaging in sexual pleasures. Being bisexual, I have had male and female partners who (for their own reasons) admire the way it looks and enjoys performing oral sex because it heightens my sensations. If it was larger and/or caused any physical discomfort, I would have it SHORTENED, but not completely reduced to a "normal" size. My lips are my own and I love them.
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written by Vanessa, January 11, 2012
Hi Dorothy,

Thank you for your question.

As I shared with Toni, these are not surgeries that may be appropriate for a young girl your age. Especially because your body will continue to develop and grow. Though there are some exceptions and young ladies that start to experience great discomfort with normal everyday activity, you do run the risk that the tissue may not be done growing.

So this is not something that I can answer for you. If changing your clothing (less fitted, etc.), positions, does not help and the pain/discomfort is unbearable then this is something you have to determine. You mention that it does not "hurt too much", so it may be something that is being affected by your clothing and not necessarily the size.

Hope that this has helped your predicament some. Remember surgery is permanent and know that you are still developing and changing. Take your time to figure out what is best for you.

Best wishes! smilies/grin.gif
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written by Vanessa, January 11, 2012
Hi Mikespink?

Thank you for your comment. Appreciate you sharing and giving us all your evolved perspective.

You are a great reminder of how we come in all different shapes and sizes. And that ultimately if it is purely cosmetic, the size of labia is relative and so is beauty.

Thanks again!

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written by Anonymous, January 17, 2012
Hi,
I have just noticed my labia over the past 6 months and I am just as self conscious as the rest. My labia it probably an inch long and I sometimes have discomfort too. Sometimes in phys. class, I'll go to the change room because of my discomfort of them rubbing from running. Only recently has it been a problem with their size and discomfort.

Either than that it's been how much of a misfit I've been feeling. It feels as if to me, no one in my school is as developed as I am down there. It drew me into studying such as, if it's normal for other woman, is it normal for girls my age, if I had a saggy vagina, how much for surgery, how common is it, and so on.
*It is normal for other woman, only 'til this site have I found girls 'my age', no a large labia (what look like lips or called the lips) isn't a saggy vagina, surgery depends on age and problem can start at 2000$ (I have read), and ook above for this one.*

Yes, I am considered popular. No, I am not joking or lying. (Like some may be thinking.) Every girl is self conscious in someway including 'us'. This has to be my biggest insecurity. Most of the girls around me have lost their virginity. Some sexually active. They're getting very curious with something very trouble some. Yet, nothing seems to be there. I do not feel pressured, but more 'out-of-the-loop' so to say. They're trying new things, and I am too self conscious to even consider it in my future.

I met this guy, and I mean he's my best friend. He's the reason what lead me to discover my labia. He isn't pressuring me like some of you, yet we have talked about it. For the future of course. I am not a 'slut'. as they say. I do not show my body off, I like to keep it private. More as in elegance and pride, then crudeness and shameful humility. Only to show for myself, and I've been thinking of telling him the truth. I feel as if he deserves to know, and maybe make me feel more confident with him and myself.

I have also talked to my mom about this, well not the discomfort. While studying, (because I am too ashamed to ask my mom, and that she doesn't fully understand this which she would like to think she does), I have found it may be or can be genetics. So, because of this I was intrigued to know what it the actual size of her labia. Harmful comments my mom has said before was to hide my labia if it was large with a 'bush', even though I find it brings more unpleasantness. Only to find she has what is considered long lips, or (after studying) a large majora for her case. Mine still larger, I was surprised to see it might be genetics!

I also want to know if it is, or isn't a myth if you're more sensitive in intercorse if you have a large labia. I can never get a straight answer!

Hopefully I covered every question for us teens!
(I am only anonymous because my name isn't common and could be searched up easily!)
Thanks, it means a lot!
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written by Vanessa Scott, February 18, 2012
Hi Anonymous,

Thank you for your comment. Was not sure if you had intended for have a response from me or if you were just wanting to share your experience.

With that said, just wanted to respond to some things you said. Sounds like you are young and still learning to not only get comfortable with your body, but with what people think about you.

I applaud you for researching your options or to even learn what other females have similar concerns. But like it has been mentioned before, these surgeries or issues are not about anyone else's body. Whether your 16 or 35, your body is your body.

Nobody can tell you what is right for your body or if large labia or small labia are beautiful, you have to believe it.

Do not let your concept of what ideal is make you feel like a misfit. You are young and as your body/mind mature you will find that our differences make us unique.

If you labia are causing you physical pain or discomfort that is another issue altogether.

Wishing you nothing but the best,

Vanessa
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written by Nadine, February 19, 2012
I have the exact same situation as Nora. I am 22 and have not had sex. I have to admit that this is partly because I am so insecure about the look of my labia. I felt this way before puberty, before I knew what labia were or that it was possible to do anything about their appearance!
Though my reason for getting this surgery is technically cosmetic, and, yes, grounded in a basic fear of being judged, it is entirely my decision to get the procedure done. I want to feel better about how I look and to stop letting low body-confidence interfere with living my life to the full.
I know women in their 40s who are happily married with children but have lived with embarrassment about their labia all their lives and are only now thinking of doing something about it. I've decided, why wait? After over 10 years of serious thought and deliberation I've come to the conlcusion that this simply isn't worth the stress.
I just think it's important to remember than emotional pain can be just as significant as physical discomfort and shouldn't be disregarded. It doesn't mean I'm not doing this for myself alone. After all, as some men here have already said, they prefer big labias, but I want to go ahead anyway. For me!
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written by Vanessa Scott, February 20, 2012
Hi Nadine,

Thank you for your comment.

It is nice to hear where you are coming from and most importantly, that you are making choices for you and nobody else. As you said, this is your decision to make (whether for physical/emotional discomfort or purely cosmetic).

In the end, this is your body. No one can tell us what is right or wrong. As long as you are being smart about it (doing your research and making educated decisions), the choice is yours. And from what you have shared it sounds like you have.

We wish you all the best and appreciate you voicing your position and sharing your experience with us.

Best wishes,

Vanessa smilies/kiss.gif
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written by LC, February 23, 2012
I hate and despise my labia. They make me feel physically sick when I look at them.I can't have a sexual relationship or touch them as I feel any man would be repulsed.

I read on another site that the average length was two cm but here you say only 10% of women have 2cm or more? is this true in 2012?

I only really realised i was a freak after watching embarrassing bodies on channel 4. Ever since I have felt ashamed and disgusted like I'm not a real woman. I haven't dated or had sex for two years as I'm so afraid of what a man might think.

I would never in a million years get this surgery doen for myself, it's only because I know many men hate and are disgusted by it. After speaking to male friends they have all implied it is not a characteristic they find attractive. I've yet to meet a man who likes it! IF it was the norm to like it, there wouldn't be reduction surgery. (By the way these men are bright and educated in their late twenties/early thirties.)

I don't know what to do anymore as i'm terrified of having surgery (and something going wrong) but also feel my body is deformed and hideous. I can't believe only 10% of women have 2cm of labia or more. this is a very small percentage. When I first saw that study i thought it meant 90% of women had less than 2cm (3/4 inch) sticking out PAST their majora. Not in total. This makes me feel like more of a freak.

I also have extra folds on mine, which i feel are unhygeinic. Are you able to tell me if this is normal? It makes me annoyed when people say 'it's normal'. If obviously isn't normal or attractive if only 1 in 10 have it like this. There is a good chance my bits might be the longest a man has ever seen. This makes me feel horrendous. like having a micro penis.

I literally hate myself because of this.
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written by Vanessa Scott, February 23, 2012
Hi LC,

Thank you for sharing.

This study is one of the more comprehensive and as shared in the post it took place "many years ago".

Regardless of what "normal" in anyone's eyes or standards, what you are experiencing or describing is not accurate. There are plenty of men and women that love large labia.

In fact, there are sites dedicated to large labia (not for educational reasons) that display the love for large labia. It sounds like your sample group of male opinions is limited and really beside the point. Nobody can tell you what is right or wrong, good or bad, or even beautiful.

We are all unique and so are our bodies.

You definitely should not have surgery or even consider it for anybody else.

As you can read in the many comments left here, the views and opinions vary. REAL men do not care what the labia looks like.

Surgery is an option to help with comfort, function, hygiene and yes appearance, but it is not there to set any standard. The majority of women I speak with that do have surgery are doing it for themselves.

The choice is yours to make or not make.

Either way, the best thing for you to see is that nobody's opinion will ever matter more than yours (not mine, not the many men that do love large labia, nor any of your friends).

If that is not what you believe, then no surgery will change that.

Your body, your choice.

Surgery is not a magic pill, it is an option to improve the quality of one's life. But it definitely should never be about pleasing anybody, but the recipient.

Wishing you the best,

Vanessa



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written by LC, February 24, 2012
Yes but women are'nt REALLY doing it for themselves are they? I mean the male dominated porn a nd media industry has told us large labia are 'undesirable' and why would a woman feel self conscious without these messages?

In the 1970s nobody cared what their bits looked like... there was no airbrushing to create men's 'ideal perfect woman'.

I am not against labiaplasty (I want it.) but to say any woman does it for herself isn't true. The whole 'perfect vag' industry is driven by male ideals. Yes a few men like large labia, I'm not disputing that.

But the vast majority of women are driven to labiaplasty by society's ideals (which are reflected by men.) All my male friends think large labia are 'disgusting'. Women also get boob jobs because they think men prefer bigger boobs.

Why, if it doesn't matter to men, would women put themselves through painful surgery? It may not be done for one particular man, but women do this to make themselves more attractive to the opposite sex. fact. yes, the pain factor may be an issue but I honestly believe this is partly physcological. My labia irritates me ona daily basis, but ONLY after a TV programme told me it was unusual/undesirable to look like this.

I can't belive how badly that channel four programme has effected me (and millions more girls if the comments box is anythig to go by.) I miss blissful ignorance! I was quite happy before I got told i was unsual/different/not attractive.

I can't turn back the clock and now my confidence has been shattered.
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written by Vanessa, February 24, 2012
Hi LC,

Thanks for your comment and for sharing your opinion.

Although I respect your opinion, I do not agree with it. For you to group women in the "ALL women have elective surgeries because of males" category is not only incorrect & misinformed, it is really unfair.

I will not refute that some females AND males choose to alter their body to meet some standard they believe is beauty (whether because it is perceived or accepted as the norm), but that is a small subset. Again I interact with women from ALL over the world, not just the UK.

And to be fair, from my observations the UK does have a very young population that is concerned with labiaplasty and labia size. Not sure what that is all about because I do not live there (perhaps that you can get it free on the NHS & don't pay for it).

But even the "Myth of the Perfect Vagina" film is a very limited sample group. It only covers a few women from the UK. Certainly not scientific or even ample representation of the women having these procedures.

Unlike breast or rhinoplasty, nobody sees the size or shape of your labia/vulva more than YOU. Nobody, not even your partner.

It is unfair and inaccurate to suggest that ALL women are driven because they are trying to please anyone but themselves. You have accepted and bought the propaganda that labia should look a certain way. I do not believe that, nor do I think any strong woman making these choices for her body would appreciate that.

Not to discount what you are sharing, but to tell me that you allowed one tv program to "completely shatter your self-esteem" or convinced you that something was wrong with your labia is disheartening. Especially when there are millions of males & females that love labia (all sizes and all shapes).

How many women have you spoken with that had this procedure or males that are not your friends in the UK have you actually spoken to?

You do not have to accept anything I say or anything anybody else does for that matter. My goal is not to convince women they need labiaplasty or any "elective" surgery, my stand is for women to make EDUCATED & safe choices.

IF your issue is with the Channel 4 programming, perhaps that is something for you to take up with them. This site here, is dedicated to informing women of the risks and benefits of Vaginal surgery, not to promote it or defend it. This is a place women can get answers to questions, not to be convinced that Labioplasty is good or bad.

Any person considering surgery for the notion of acceptance or somebody else's ideals, SHOULD NOT have surgery, period!

We are all unique and different, that is not unattractive. You can not control what anybody else thinks, ever. All you can control is what YOU believe.

If you choose to accept what a tv program tells you, then you have allowed that. Whether you agree with me or not, we are responsible for what we accept or believe as truth. With that said, you are much more powerful than you are giving us women credit for. smilies/wink.gif

Best wishes,

Vanessa
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written by Lottie, February 24, 2012
I think the fact that your vulva is so hidden 99.9% of the time actually makes it all the more worrying for women. I was really insecure about my the shape of my nose when I was younger but knowing hundreds of thousands of people have seen it and not (yet!) attempted to shun me from society eventually diffused the significance of my perceived 'disfigurement'. However, if you are more reserved or just extremely choosy when it comes to relationships or sexual partners you certainly won't have the same degree of exposure + response in comparison with your face!
Having found the appearance of my protruding and asymmetrical labia minora ugly before I even knew how it was meant to look or what was 'normal', I have found the idea of letting a partner down there (in any capacity) extremely daunting, even upsetting. A lights off, eyes up sort of deal! There is no doubt that this has significantly impacted my personal & romantic life.
Bearing that it mind, I don't see opting for this surgery as necessarily for the benefit of 'someone else' or 'men' in general but for my own quality of life? I do really wish there were less stigma about the cosmetic aspects of this procedure. No one bats an eyelid at a rhinoplasty or breast augmentation or chemical peel but mention labiaplasty and you are letting down the side of women everywhere! It has made it impossible for me to feel comfortable telling my family or friends about my distress and decision to go in for surgery and, consequently, am going through this all alone. Which I feel is a terrible shame.
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written by Vanessa Scott, February 24, 2012
Hi Lottie,

Thank you for your comment.

Not only are you not alone, you are courageous in speaking out. You help other women know that they are not alone as well. Whether surgery is something that is chosen or not, it is not about perfection.

As you put it best, it is about the quality of YOUR life, not mine or anybody else's.

You are correct that the stigma around these procedures only spreads misinformation and prevents women from speaking out, fearing they will be chastised or judged.

In the end, by you educating yourself first, you can decide what is right for you and your body.

There are millions of women and men that have elective surgery every year, because they want. And millions that choose not to. Neither group is right or wrong.

This site exists to help women like you and the others looking to make informed decisions (whether that means having a surgery or not). As I have said before, this is a safe place to ask questions and share advice...

Not to be judged or to go through this process feeling alone, ashamed and uninformed.

We wish you the best.

Vanessa Scott
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written by Lottie, February 24, 2012
Thank you. It's so important to feel supported.
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written by Vanessa Scott, February 24, 2012
Thank you Lottie.

Please do not hesitate to let me know if you have questions.

Keep doing your research. And remember, you deserve the best, we all do!
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Wishing you health & lots of happiness,

Vanessa
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written by LC, February 25, 2012
Are you able to tell me the risks of the procedure? I've heard some women complain the pain has been constant for years afterwards (nerve damage.) Some people say this is agony to have done, others say it's not too bad. In you opinion. what's the real recovery time?

And also, how small do you chop the lips up? I would hate to be left with nothing at all (I@ve seen this on some labiaplasty pics.)
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written by Vanessa Scott, February 25, 2012
The recovery has a lot to do with the way you care for the area, your pain tolerance, your health and of course your doctor. Surgery is surgery. There is some discomfort naturally. The amount depends on you and your doctor's skill/technique/experience.

I don't "chop lips up" and hopefully neither do surgeons offering these procedures. The amount reduced during a labiaplasty should be discussed with you and your surgeon. It is up to you to determine that.

But the truth is, based on what you have shared it may be best for you not to jump into any surgery. Especially if you are considering it for somebody else.

Good luck and keep doing your research!
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written by Janet, March 05, 2012
Hi there,

I am 20 and I have very long labia minora which cause me a lot of pain from chafing. I'd like to point out to the above anti-labioplasty commenters that the PHYSICAL pain is affecting me (and from what I read above, same for many other women), instead of self-image issues..

They're creating a stigma against labioplasty patients, which is worse than what they claim to be fighting (a stigma against large lips).

I'd appreciate if people would avoid immediately jumping to the conclusion that wanting a labioplasty means we think large lips aren't beautiful.

When I sit down for long periods my labia feel like they're burning, and they often feel terribly itchy even though they are normal and not infected.

I am considering a labioplasty and would like to view it as similar to getting a painful wisdom tooth pulled, if not for these people who make me feel judged and like people will automatically think of me as someone with self-esteem issues if they knew of my surgery.

That aside, my question is, is there any other way to categorise the surgery (other than 'cosmetic') if I have to declare it?

In my country there is a growing concern about 'plastic' celebrities/models, similar to the sentiments of commenters as I identified above, and I am worried that the procedure will affect my job options as employers are worried female employees (especially in the service/media industry) with cosmetic surgery will be rejected with public criticism.

Thanks!
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written by Vanessa Scott, March 06, 2012
Hello Janet,

Thank you for your comment and for having the courage to speak your mind/share your experience.

You make a very interesting point (about the stigma around Labioplasty). I would have to agree that this level of scrutiny or mistaken conclusion only leads women (ones w/similar issues you described) to not discuss these issues openly.

Consequently, putting them at a greater risk to seeing or speaking with the wrong surgeon (that may not be truly equipped to help).

Out of desperation and embarrassment, they are not comfortable talking with other females or educating themselves appropriately for fear of being chastised or labeled as weak & insecure.

When in actuality labiaplasty can be likened to blepharoplasty (eye lid surgery), breast reduction and rhinoplasty. For some it is purely cosmetic and for many there is a functional/physical component.

With that said, the best thing for you or any woman is to educate herself on all the possible outcomes and ways to move forward intelligently & SAFELY.

Therefore to answer your question, it would depend on what you mean "declare it"? Do you mean for health care or if people ask?

Please let me know what you meant and that will give me a better idea.

Kind regards,

Vanessa
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written by Jane Doe. , March 12, 2012
When I was about 12 years old, I awakened to the sight of a growth in my labia. Unsure, and embarrassed, I left it be - not telling anyone. I eventually told my mother when I was fourteen. We went to a gynocologist, and she said there could be no surgery until I was in my twenties, for that would be when I am done with puberty. My first, and only sexual partner was set on the idea that I 'looked like I was raped.' This horrified me, leading to think I could never have a sexual partner ever again. Im still awaiting the day I get my labiaplasty. I am most definately set on getting it as soon as possible. I am so uncomfortable in my own body with this, that I am unable to find someone to be with.
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written by Vanessa Scott, March 13, 2012
Hi Jane,

Thank you for your comment and sharing your experience.

Though this may have been a very traumatic experience for you, know that one person's opinion should never determine the level of your happiness. We are all different anatomically (nose, ears, hair, breast, etc.).

It sounds like your ex-partner was really not worthy of you and your body. Any person that would make such thoughtless comments are not just undeserving of you, they should not impact your self-esteem or your happiness.

There are many people that would find your labia perfect as they are. In fact, there are some men (&women) that really enjoy labia (all shapes & sizes).

With that said, if this is something you have decided for you, that is your choice. But keep in mind that nobody's opinion will ever matter more than yours. You cannot give your power or joy away to somebody else or you will never be "comfortable with your own body".

We all deserve to be happy. But you will never find happiness in anybody outside of you.

I wish you the best and that you find what you are looking for!!

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Vanessa Scott
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written by Shandell, March 19, 2012
Hi. I am 20 years old, and I've only had sex with one person. I have an elongated labia, the sex was horrible because I was afraid of him wanting to go down there so I spent the whole time worried. I met this guy, an he is so sweet and kind. We have recently started to get physical, and he definitely makes me feel good, but I'm afraid of him seeing my labia. My vagina is hideous. Also I have a scar on my stomach because my belly ring got ripped out, and it got infected so now I have a protruding red scar on my tummy. I'm just terrified to have sex with anyone. Any advice? I just dont want them to make fun of me for my flaws. Especially my labia.
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written by Vanessa Scott, March 19, 2012
Hi Shandell,

Thank you for your comment.

Aside from you being young in age, it seems that this issue is also due to lack of experience.

Why would you describe your vagina as "hideous"?

Anyone that would make "fun" of you for any reason is clearly not worthy of being intimate with you now or ever. That behavior not only sounds highly immature, it makes me wonder the depth of the relationship.

There are plenty of men and women that love labia (as you can read by the comment below), all sizes.

WE are all different and unique. WE must embrace that if anyone is ever going to truly appreciate you...

If you start letting other people dictate to you your beauty or self-worth now, when will it stop?

Vanessa

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written by Maxim, March 19, 2012
Hi I am a man. I love big long labias and i think they very sexy and beautyful. I love long big labias and I HATE labioplasty...
Vulvas are not mass-production. All they must be absolutely individual by size, shape and color. I say NO labioplasty. Stop this horror...
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written by Vanessa Scott, March 20, 2012
Thanks for sharing Maxim. I appreciate you sharing your opinion and only validating that men (& women) love labia (all shapes, lengths & sizes).

Though some women may be concerned with what their partner will think, nobody should ever do something to please other people. These decisions and options are about a woman's body and her right to choose for HERSELF (whether to have or not have surgery), not about what somebody else likes or dislikes.

Similar to how I am sure you don't shave your hair, pierce your scrotum or get circumcised because a woman prefers it. You make choices that you want for you, not to make sure your girlfriend or wife approves, right?

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Thanks again!

Vanessa
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written by isha, March 27, 2012
hi,m indian girl 26 year old,,i had never sex n have inner labia past out the outer,,it is neabout 1,7cm long,m very tensed about it,,i had talked about this to my mom,,she said its normal in puberty little bit visible,,in old age it will automatically shrink,,but still m worried about this,what will my future husband think about this smilies/sad.gifis it also common for a virgin indian girl to look like this
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written by Vanessa Scott, March 27, 2012
Hi Isha,

Thank you for your questions.

It is good that you have spoken with your mother as she may know firsthand what you are experiencing (genetically).

There is a misconception that protruding labia (past majora) is caused by sex or masturbation, but it has more to do with age, hormones, genetics, etc. Labia come in all different shapes, sizes, lengths and color. As the image above indicates.

Remember we are all different, so what is normal or "common" for me, may not be normal for you and vice versa.

Hope that helps!

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Vanessa
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written by isha, March 27, 2012
how weight can effect the labia???it means if someone lose weight it also can cause visible inner labia
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written by Vanessa Scott, March 28, 2012
Hi Isha,

Yes depending on the person, weight gain/loss can affect the labia too. So can hormonal changes in the body/e.g. pregnancy.

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written by Chloe H, April 07, 2012
Hii,

I have a very large labia and it's so uncomfortable, i couldn't have sex with people cause I was so ashamed and embarrassed and i won't even let my current boyfriend look! I went to the doctors about labiaplasty because i feel this is exactly what i want, and they made me an appointment with the hospital but the hospital said i will grow into it? i had it since i was 12? it's not budging! so it annoyed me! i told them it hurt to wear tight pants, inserting tampons, and sex was sometimes awkward.. and could be painful... her advice. just spread your labia apart... Oh what great help she was, not what i wanted!
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written by Vanessa Scott, April 08, 2012
Hello Chloe,

Thanks for your comment. I appreciate you sharing your experience.

As you know labia come in all different shapes and sizes. So there is nothing for you to feel "ashamed" about.

In regards to labiaplasty, why did you go to a hospital and not a specialist? How old are you now?

let me know.

Vanessa
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written by Chloe H, April 08, 2012
Hi Vanessa,

I'm 17 now 18 in a week but even still i should have 'grown' into it surely?

I went to the hospital because my doctor sent in a letter to see if i could get labiaplasty because it does cause me a lot of pain not sure why she didn't send me to a specialist though? but i think i'm going to try again as soon as i turn 18 because maybe that was the issue? i just want it gone and out of my life so i can feel confident again
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written by Vanessa, April 08, 2012
Hi Chloe,

Thanks for your response.

So does it cause pain or is it more the appearance that bothers you?

Regardless of when or how you go forward with the procedure, it is definitely best to see a specialist. They will have the appropriate training, skill and experience. You want someone that knows what they are doing down there!

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written by steve, April 24, 2012
Long Labia give the most sexual pleasure to me due to the lips huging and tickling my shaft. Im told that girth and long labia for a womens perspective is a divine pleasure. Better wait and explore before you really have surgery. Also, dont compare your lips to a porn stars. They typically tuck them in or air brush them out.
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written by Vanessa Scott, April 25, 2012
Thanks for sharing Steve,

It is always helpful to hear from men and how they support women. The truth is there are probably more men that feel the same way you do about women's labia. It is unfortunate that some people try to blame men or demonize these procedures...

Women do not make these choices to please men. Most women that consider these procedures do so because of their own discomfort.

Thank you again for sharing though!


Best,

Vanessa

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